The J.A.M.
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Apr 13, 2014 #16

Bump once again, and "reset" the story, as there will be one edit.
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Apr 21, 2014 #17

A couple of little side notes:

1. Pontius Pilate was both better and worse than the usual account portrays him. On the one hand, the death penalty was only handed down because the top religious leaders were swearing that Jesus was agitating against Caesar -- an automatic death penalty, if true. Likewise, Pilate did offer to release Him, an offer he didn't have to make, and it was rejected on the Jews' own authority. Moreover, his washing of hands was (by Deuteronomy 21) a declaration that Jesus was being murdered and he could do nothing to stop it.

On the other hand, Pilate was a career bureaucrat who already had two strikes against him for twice trying to set up a temple of Mars inside Jerusalem -- explicitly forbidden by treaty. According to Josephus, his third strike came when he suspected a large number of Jews rushing for the hills of planning a revolt and had the centurions hunt them down and kill them... only to find they were following a scam artist who promised the hidden treasures of Moses. His career ended in ignominy.

(Now you know why he caved to the Pharisees. He knew full well that, after his antics trying to set up Mars-worship, he'd have been removed and replaced as soon as word reached Caesar. Things might have gone differently, yes, but that wasn't in the Plan.)

2. True, we have no actual account in the Bible that says the spirit of the repentant criminal went along on the harrowing of Hell, but it does make for a better story. ;)

3. Luke also holds the distinction of having written in the Greek style, kronos logos (chronologically), rather than the thematic style of the Jews.
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Apr 21, 2014 #18

Wanderer @ Apr 21 2014, 03:27 AM wrote: 2. True, we have no actual account in the Bible that says the spirit of the repentant criminal went along on the harrowing of Hell, but it does make for a better story. ;)
Odd, I thought that Jesus' declaration "You will be with me today in Paradise" was what I dramatized for Saturday's post.
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Apr 22, 2014 #19

The J.A.M. @ Apr 21 2014, 05:39 AM wrote:
Wanderer @ Apr 21 2014, 03:27 AM wrote: 2.  True, we have no actual account in the Bible that says the spirit of the repentant criminal went along on the harrowing of Hell, but it does make for a better story.  ;)
Odd, I thought that Jesus' declaration "You will be with me today in Paradise" was what I dramatized for Saturday's post.
(waggles paw) That only says that he's going to Heaven, not the gates of Hell. It's open to interpretation, and there's nothing wrong with the story. I was just pointing out that it's not, strictly speaking, in the Bible.
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Mar 29, 2015 #20

True, but given the reports that people saw the spirits of the Old Testament Saints after the crucifixion, there might have been a slight delay before he went to Heaven.
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Apr 05, 2015 #21

Important addition on Sunday!
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Apr 24, 2016 #22

Bump for the Passover. However, since Jewish Year 5776 is a leap year, it has one additional month between Adar and Nisan, Adar II, so the Passover is 1 month late this time.

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Apr 09, 2017 #23

Bump again. Enjoy.
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Mar 25, 2018 #24

Bump one more time :D :D :D
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8:04 PM - 6 days ago #25

Yet another bump.
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